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CIVIL WAR BAYONETS AND OTHER
Jun 16, 2016 Socket Bayonets: A History and Collector's Guide Graham Priest on Amazon.com.FREE. shipping on qualifying offers. The bayonet was originally developed in the seventeenth century in its early ‘plug’ form, probably as a hunting ancillary. From this starting point it became a military success.
13-01-21 - Saber Bayonet for Colt Revolving Rifle: Actually this is the S&K (Schnitzler & Kirschbaum Solingen) saber bayonet which fits a number of Civil War era rifles. But its’ claim to fame is that it usually fits the military style Colt revolving rifle. Overall VG condition. $235.00
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13-01-22 - Saber Bayonet for Colt Alteration of Mississippi Rifle: A very good to fine example of the brass handle saber bayonet for the M1841 US Rifle … aka … Mississippi Rifle with the Colt factory alteration of adding rear sights and bayonet lugs. Good solid example… $325.00
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BAY1008 - Danish Pattern 1854 Socket Bayonet with Kyhls locking Spring. Excellent condition dated 1855 and bearing numerous regimental markings on the socket. Muzzle ring dia. 23mm. This bayonet was for use with the Dornbuchse M1849 Rifle and reissued as the Model 1854. The locking spring was designed by Johan Christian Wilken Kyhl and first used in 1794. It continued in use until at least 1860. More than a few were imported by North and South during the Civil War when Europe was invaded by purchasing agents buying anything that could shoot, stab, or cut. Priced well below other web pages at $165.00
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BAY1007 - Another Danish Pattern 1854 Socket Bayonet: This one lacks the Kyhls locking Spring. Otherwise excellent condition dated 1855 and bearing numerous regimental markings on the socket. Muzzle ring dia. 23mm. This bayonet was for use with the Dornbuchse M1849 Rifle and reissued as the Model 1854. More than a few were imported by North and South during the Civil War when Europe was invaded by purchasing agents buying anything that could shoot, stab, or cut. Priced well below other web pages at $75.00
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BAY1009 - Replica Civil War .58 Caliber M1861 Socket Bayonet: A darn near perfect copy of the original. Ideal for living history or reenacting. Priced at half of what the repro sutlers charge. $25.00
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BAY1001 - Rare and Early 1795-1812 US Bayonet: Here is a darn scarce bayonet. It is for a 1795 US or 1798 Contract musket from the War of 1812 era. It has a 14.5” blade deeply stamped with a large “US” stamped sideways as well as two other letters struck so deeply that I can not read them. There is a narrow fuller in the face of the blade running 7” back from the tip. Socket is short at 2.75” inches long with large crude mortise. Overall length is a hair more than 18 inches. There is a “bridge” covering the mortise at the base of the socket like on an 1816 bayonet. Attic untouched condition. Grey steel with areas of moderate pitting. Very honest, very nice, and very, very scarce Far rarer than the Sharps and Spencer Bayonets which command nearly twice this amount. $395.00
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BAY1002 - Rare and Early 1795 US Bayonet: Here is another darn scarce bayonet. It is for a 1795 US or 1798 Contract musket. It has a 14.5” blade deeply stamped with a large “US”. There is a narrow fuller running 6.5” back from the tip. Socket is 3.25” inches long with large crude mortise. Overall all length is a hair more than 18 inches. Attic untouched condition. Grey steel with some areas of light pitting. Very honest, very nice, and very, very scarce Far rarer than the Sharps and Spencer Bayonets which command nearly twice this amount. $395.00
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BAY1003 - English 18th Bayonet for Carbine or Fusil: Classic English bayonet of the last quarter of the 18th century. Virtually identical to the Brown Bess bayonet but shorter and with mortise cut out for use with a bottom mounted bayonet lug. Blade is 14.5” long. 3.6” socket length, overall length 18.5”. Very fine condition, overall rust brown patina. I wish I could tell you which specific gun this fits, but at this price I don’t think you will worry about it. No markings that I can see. $350.00
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BAY1005 - Another Extra Fine Condition Round Shoulder M-1842 Socket Bayonet: This is the rare ’42 pattern produced in the 1860s with the rounded shoulders on the blade like on the 1855-1861 examples. Rates a “fine” condition grade. Overall shiny steel, with no rust, no pitting, no stains. Has a clear US stamp. This is a very strong condition bayonet. Clean, shiny, solid… will compliment a musket in the $2000 to $2500 value range. zafjx $295.00
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A Pile of Scarce Civil War Production M-1842 Bayonets .. These .69 caliber M42 US socket bayonets with rounded shoulders were produced during the Civil War. Those we see with squared shoulders are the ones made during the 1840s and 1850s. All patterns of this bayonet will fit all patterns of the M1835-40 and M1842 muskets. They are totally interchangeable. These Civil War production examples are by far the rarest pattern. Available here are six very nice examples. All have visible US stampings on the blade. All are complete and functional. Choose from…
13-06-17A and 13-06-17B.. NRA very good + condition. Light wear. (qty2) .. $265.00
13-06-17C (SOLD) .. 13-06-17D and 13-06-17E.. NRA fine condition. Sharp edges. (qty3) .. $295.00
13-06-17F .. NRA fine condition - blade shortened to 14” .. $100.00
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PREVIOUSLY SOLD CIVIL WAR BAYONETS AND OTHER
BAY1004 - Extra Fine Condition Round Shoulder M-1842 Socket Bayonet: This is the rare ’42 pattern produced in the 1860s with the rounded shoulders on the blade like on the 1855-1861 examples. Rates a “fine” condition grade. Overall gun metal grey steel with lots of dried grease and areas of old surface rust that looks like it will clean off easily. There are a couple light patches of pitting on the socket but very fine. Has a crisp US stamp. This is a very strong condition bayonet that just needs a few minutes of careful cleaning with 0000-steel wool. This is crisp, solid, and just a little dirty. ZACE $250.00
BAY1006 - Attic Brown Fine Condition 58 caliber Socket Bayonet: The standard Civil War infantry bayonet. This was used from 1855 when the national armories first introduced the 58 caliber muskets.. to the end of the Civil War. This one is attic fine condition with rich, undisturbed attic brown patina, sharp edges, and clear US stamp over smaller S inspector’s initial. Appropriate for display with a gun worth $1200 to $1600 range with a brown patina. Aj??? $165.00

BAYONET SCABBARDS AND MUSKET MARKINGS
07/28/2013
On this page I will show some different types of reproduction and original bayonet scabbards.
The lower part of the page contains pictures of some original muskets with period owner markings.
For those trying to buy the correct style Federal scabbard, here is some help to date your scabbard to the desired time period.
1840 to circa 1859 the frog was sewn to the scabbard.
In 1859 two rivets were added for strength until early 1863.
In February 1863 the seven rivet frog was approved.
In 1864 the eight rivet scabbard came on the scene.
As a general rule, Confederates using Union scabbards should stick to the sewn frog or two rivet scabbards unless demonstrating captured equipment.Six and seven rivet scabbards were not in use until 1863 and would be incorrect for use in early war events for CS or US.
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This is an early war, (two rivet) Union Bayonet Scabbard with a Springfield bayonet. It belonged to Cpl. Oliver Godfrey of the 14th New Hampshire Inf. Regiment. This scabbard is a US arsenal manfactured scabbard for an Austrian bayonet. The scabbard has four sides and is longer to accomodate the Lorenz bayonet. It is unknown if this scabbard was issued with the springfield bayonet but wear marks indicate that the bayonet has been in this scabbard for a long time. His belt, cap box and cartridge box are shown on the Union Equipment page.
Here are two reproduction Confederate bayonet scabbards made by Butch Myers. Brass was scarce in the Confederacy and other materials were often used for bayonet scabbard tips. The upper tin tipped scabbard is shown carrying an Enfield bayonet.
CS MADE SCABBARD WITH ENFIELD BAYONET
Shown above is a CS manufactured scabbard which was recently discovered in North Carolina still containing it's original P-53 Enfield bayonet. Adobe after effects cs6 mac. The lead finial was with the scabbard but had fallen out. Notice the blueing still left on the bayonet's socket. It is shown resting on a Keen made London enfield which also retains much of it's original blueing. There are no markings on the scabbard and the only mark on the bayonet are what appears to be two initials which are so deeply stamped and so very small that they can't be read.These could be the inspectors initials.
Here are three two rivet scabbards showing the stitching on the back. To the right are the frog ends. It should be noted that the Jarnagin scabbard is one of his older ones and his hand sewn scabbards look much better. This picture courtsey of Matt Nelson.
This original scabbard was used with the M-1816 (or M1822) conversion muskets and came into existance around the 1840s. The scabbard takes a 16 inch blade.
ENFIELD BAYONET WITH FROG: This is a P-53 Enfield bayonet and scabbard with the most correct type frog. P-53 bayonet scabbards normally used a sewn frog with no buckle. The Enfield sabre bayonets used the frog with a buckled strap however evidence exist that some P-53 scabbards used the buckle frog. It appears that both type frogs were imported for use by both sides. This scabbard is came with a Birmingham Small Arms Trade (BSAT) marked bayonet inside. There are no marks visible on the scabbard. This bayonet and scabbard came from Massachusetts and shows the appropriate patina for being in an attic for 140+ years. Notice how dirty the brass throat is. This one surely saw the elephant and is not one from Canada or the British Colonies.
Birmingham Small Arms Trade stamping on bayonet along with inspectors initials WB.
BSAT marking on a Salter & Co. P53 bayonet. Most P-53 bayonets will have two initials stamped into the bayonet. These are the inspectors initials.
The Enfield scabbard throat shown right was dug from a Confederate position in Petersburg. If you look closely, you can see where the soldier filed out the corners so that his Springfield bayonet would fit this enfield scabbard. I have a Springfield and Enfield musket dug from the same Petersburg trench. Both are mounted with Springfield bayonets indicating that some Confederates fixed their muskets with any bayonet as long as it would fit.
Shown above are four Gaylord scabbard tips and an enfield scabbard tip. All were dug around the Richmond / Petersburg area.
The below picture shows an Enfield bayonet in pristine condition. This picture came off of e-bay and shows that the sockets were blued and the blades were left bright. Over the past 140 or so years the bluing has worn off most of these bayonets as indicated by the one pictured above. The 'WD' and broad arrow markings can be seen on the scabbard indicating the bayonet probably never saw action in the American CW.
MARK YOUR MUSKET ??
Shown below are some original Civil War Muskets marked by their owners. There is little doubt several of these were period markings and not added after the war. Carvings in stocks were sometimes added by the owners after the war. Usually there is no way to determine if the carvings were done during or after the war.
The soldiers initials 'G A H' are scratched into the upper left inside surface of this Mississippi Patch Box cover. This cover was found in Petersburg proving that Mississippi Rifles were being used in the later part of the war.
This enfield butt plate at right was dug in two parts in Petersburg. ' B.68' is marked in the brass. The markings could have stood for Co. B, rack number 68.
Look in the upper part of the stock where the shine is and you will see a lightly carved '18 th' with 'SC' underneath. This enfield stock was pulled from a bombproof at the Crater in 1869 by a Miss Sadie Wiley of Richmond. The 18th SC was the unit blown up in the Crater. It may be note worthy that this stock was part of a London Armory Enfield and the date stamped on the stock is 1862.
Enfield musket owned by George W. Newton, Company D, 38th Va. Regt. I put baby powder in the stock carving to help show up the markings. 'G.W.N.' is also carved between the lock screws and can be partially seen in the above picture. Newton deserted in 1864 probably due to his poor health. This musket was traded in on a shot gun in 1939 by a local farmer in Portsmouth, Va. It is a Birmingham gun with 1862 over Tower marked on the lock. The gauge markings are 24. Other than the lock and proof markings there are no other manufactures markings or inspection markings on the stock or exterior of the metal parts of this musket.Another Pattern 1853 Enfield used by John Kersay, Company B of the 9th Va. Inf. This Enfield was found in an old house being torn down in Norfolk, Va. The stock makers name is in the ramrod channel but I can not make it out.
Here is another Confederate used musket with wartime markings. The markings consist of the soldiers name, 'J H Crunk' followed by the date of 'Oct 20th 1862'.Crunk was a member of Company B, 18th Tenn. He was captured at Ft. Donaldson, released and rejoined his regiment in Oct 1862. He was later killed at Marietta Georgia in 1864 while opposing some of Sherman's New Yorkers. One of them must have taken Crunk's Model 1842 musket back to New York where it later surfaced and found it's way to the Richmond Show in Nov 03.
Marked M-1841 Mississippi. This stamped butt plate identifies the rifle to Company C of the 46th Mass. The number 12 may designate that the 12th man in company C received this musket. If that is the case it was used by Private Thomas I. Campbell, res. Westfield; 21; mechanic; enl. Sept. 24, 1862, must. out. July 29, 1863. The 46th was a nine months regt. and spent most of its service in North Carolina. This Mississippi has been converted to use a socket bayonet via the Drake conversion.
This M-1842 Harpers Ferry belonged to John Henderson of Company H, 25th Maine Infantry. The right most character seems to be a sideways 25. The 25th Maine was a 9 month regiment and musted out prior to Gettysburg in 1863. Carved Union identifications are not as common as their CS counterparts.
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